Does Governor Nesbitt Have The Cajoneys To Debate?
Everybody knows that Tim Nesbitt is and has been the real Governor of Oregon the last 4 years. Now we have the "Governor-In-Name-Only" Kulongoski acting all weird and calling for a debate of M48 supporter Howard Rich.
Huh?
Well aint that special..?? Is Kulongoski too afraid to debate the author of the measure Don McIntire? Doesn't Kulongski have enough to worry about? Well I thouoght so. And so did Don McIntire, who is calling for a debate with the real Governor of Oregon.
Can anyone say backfire? Will Kulongoski wimp out or answer the bell? Or will he send the true Governor in to handle this himself?
Matt Evans 19210 SW Martinazzi Ave PMB 820 Tualatin, OR 97062 (503) 720-4740
DON MCINTIRE OF THE RAINY DAY AMENDMENT COMMITTEE RESPONDS TO KULONGOSKI DEBATE CHALLENGE
To Tim Nesbitt, AFL-CIO boss, and to his "yes" man, Governor Kulongoski:
Thank you for your letter, which offers yet another reason for Oregon voters to support the Rainy Day Amendment. It reveals, after all, the fact that Oregon's Governor has no clue as to what's going on in his own state.
I must say, though, you might want to check your facts before releasing such an error-ridden note to the public. It is an election year, and you clearly want to keep your job so that you can keep the big spenders in charge and the taxpayers quiet.
Since it is apparent you are living on a planet ruled by special interests, not in the great state of Oregon, let me fill you in on some news: 162,000 Oregonian voters signed the petition for the Rainy Day Amendment. This fall, Oregonians will have the final word on whether or not to bring back responsible spending to our state. But perhaps that's what you're so afraid of--that hardworking taxpayers might just put an end to your government gravy train.
We all know who pulls the strings here in Oregon, and forgive us, Governor, if we say publicly it's not you. Union bosses and special interests are openly running your campaign, so we, in turn, realize why you're doing their dirty work. You want to keep spending recklessly, and you want the taxpayers to just shut up.
However, you might want to get a fact checker before you embarrass yourself further. A quick rundown of some of the errors in your piece:
1. Over 300 local donors have already given to the Rainy Day Amendment campaign, and that list continues to grow. We're thankful to Howard Rich for helping us get our campaign off the ground. Unions--as you well know, Governor--have a whole lot of money to splash around to keep the special interests in charge. Out of state unions have already given $2 million to try and defeat the Rainy Day Amendment. We're working to put the people back in charge. Just whose side are you on? Here's a tip, Governor--or should we address this to you, Mr. Nesbitt?--you might want to keep it a secret that you're against giving the people a say in state spending.
2. If you really want a debate, perhaps you should call up Governor Bill Owens of Colorado, who can tell you that Colorado's spending limit--which, as you can read in yesterday's Oregonian, is quite different than ours--was a smashing success. He's already done so in several op-eds across the country.
3. "Anti-government"? We are for responsible government. The fact that you're threatened suggests a little about your governing style.
4. The Rainy Day Amendment won't cut a single penny of government spending. It allows spending to grow every year - by at least $2.6 billion in the first two years alone. Look it up, Governor. And, no offense, but if you can't understand simple math, why should the voters trust you with a $45 billion budget?
We expect more distraction techniques to come from the people who want out-of-control spending to continue. You don't care about the future of Oregon--you care about your own, taxpayer-funded paycheck and your kickbacks.
As a Chief Petitioner, I accept the challenge to debate the real leader of the government class in Oregon - Tim Nesbitt, recent President of the Oregon AFL-CIO. I will debate Mr. Nesbitt as many times as he would like between now and election day. Oregonians would be well served to find out more about the "power behind the throne" in our state. I suspect such a series of debates would reveal much about what's really wrong in Oregon. If Mr. Nesbitt is unavailable or unwilling, I'd even take on the second in command, Governor Kulongoski.
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Kulongoski will NEVER debate Don McIntire because he knows Don would wipe the floor with him.
Where I work, this would be termed a "discourteous email", and the author would be subject to sanctions up to and including termination of employment.
According to the "HR" department, veracity doesn't matter, nor does intent. All that matters is the perception of the recipient.
Yup, you can apparently be held accountable for the perceptions of another person.
The stuff that goes on when your attention's diverted....
Ay caramba, it's cojones. If you're going to poach a Spanish vulgarity, you can at least spell it correctly.
Its to bad Saxton doesn't support the Rainy Day Ammendment. As the leader of our party this election cycle he could really get milleage if he took the governor to task for wanting to raid the kicker.
Also, the liberal blogs are going nuts bragging about the guts of Kulongoski challenging a guy who isn't even involved in the campaign other than cutting a check.
I want proof about the 2.6 Billion increase he referenced. Could someone please enlighten me, us, we etc
Let the liberal blogs go crazy. Remember how they went nuts after Judge Mary Merten James tossed out measure 37?
I mean it was like shangrilah (sp?) to them. Nothing could have been better and they were sure they were right.... well... we saw how THAT turned out.
This was a silly ploy by the Governor. Nothing but a cheap press stunt and it could really backfire on him... AND the opponents of M48.
"""Let the liberal blogs go crazy. Remember how they went nuts after Judge Mary Merten James tossed out measure 37?"""
They did indeed go nuts as they praised the James ruling as wise, brilliant, thorough and rock solid.
After it was entirely and unanimously rejected by the OSC
they looked like the dishonest blue fools they are.
And when faced with their own prior words praising James's ruling they either had no comment or stumbled around in grand mal seizures like 12 year olds throwing tantrums.
anon 1:17 am,
The $2.6 billion increase is the amount of growth the Legislative Fiscal Office predicts will be available under this measure. The Dept of Administrative services agrees with this assumption.
It should be noted that this is still an estimate and was made conservatively. Final population and inflation numbers (to be released in December) could push the growth allowance to $2.8 billion.
Nesbitt is the REAL governor of Oregon?
Right. And Howie Rich is the real Fuhrer.
(Remember to salute properly, Piccolo. Er, I mean "Coyote.")
Are you actually so far gone on your own lunatic propaganda that you believe this absurdity? Or are you just lying, as usual?
I'm sure your "witty" reply will be a real laugh riot.
The left is so far gone on there own lunatic propaganda that they believe M37 is still unconstitutional.
anon, like so many of your pals you are foolish and dishonest.
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Let's throw bonds into the mix.
Suppose that the market value of taxable real estate actually drops from one year to the next.
Suppose further that in the preceding year the government had reached their limits in bond issuances relative to the taxable real property.
Would someone characterize this excess bonding as unlawful? Or . . .
Would they create a fiction via Measure 5 to declare that tax appraisal values shall not decrease, even if market values decline, so as to lock in the governmental power to continue to tax on fictional value?
Generally, I think that bonds, or rather the prospective payments on bonds that come due in future legislative sessions, are such a giant gapping hole in the apparent small government notion of assigning arbitrary levels of appropriations going forward that M48 does not even come close to hitting the side of a barn.
Suppose any Rainy Day Fund could only be invested in US Treasuries. What would be the point of advance collection of such taxes, rather than leaving it in the hands of private folks, other than the seeming inability of some economist to accurately forecast forward a whole two year period, with the ever-present option of making an adjustment after one year via a special session?
The R's in 2003 had the power to NOT issue certain bonds; certain Pension Obligation Bonds. I cannot blame Mr. Nesbitt for the conduct of the R's, of their own free will.
Does Mr. Randall Edwards today possess the appropriations power that is supposed to reside exclusively with the legislature? If so, in the eyes of the present legislature, why not try to restore the order of things by relegating all "moral obligation bonds" to a subservient status behind and until all other basic functions of government are fulfilled, as a strictly optional thing -- where a real macho macho man would tell credit rating folks that if they cannot obtain a judicial order to compel taxation to simply take a hike.
Will the real power broker please stand up?
--pdxnag
Friend of labor Kulongoski also has Jim Sager former president of the Oregon Education Association as his education advisor.
Teddy better not surround himself with too much labor or he'll give birth to a Demolibgressive.
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